Hehehe, I just put it on FB myself. Let’s spread the joy around - enough hoaxes, and perhaps the public will become a bit more skeptical.
My brother and I have planned for ages to make a crop circle somewhere, just to see what will happen… ![]()
Hehehe, I just put it on FB myself. Let’s spread the joy around - enough hoaxes, and perhaps the public will become a bit more skeptical.
My brother and I have planned for ages to make a crop circle somewhere, just to see what will happen… ![]()
The fight against e-theft proceeds apace.
'Luthon64
My brother and I have planned for ages to make a crop circle somewhere, just to see what will happen... :-)You are likely to be shot by the farmer.
After which a secret branch of the military, assuming we are aliens, will keep our bodies on ice in a hangar somewhere. We will seem to have disappeared off the face of the earth, until such time as a video of our dissection is leaked onto the web and aired on Discovery Channel.
“R54 735 638 has been expended to collect the debt” >:D
Keep up the civil disobedience folks, the system will crash.
SANRAL has a terrifically cunning plan for reducing traffic congestion in Gauteng: Arrest and jail a good portion of motorists who refuse to pay e-toll. 
At the same time, there’s a good chance the ANC is quietly using Gauteng’s e-toll brouhaha to attract voters. There’s a rumour going around that ANC representatives are spreading the story among poor rural people that they must vote for the ANC because it will make e-tolling work. The funds so collected will be used for the poor people’s benefit. In other words, the ANC is allegedly attempting to sell e-tolling to the masses as a wealth redistribution scheme where well-off individuals subsidise the poor. Unbelievable, if true.
'Luthon64
Totally believable, if true
FTFY
Oh, it wouldn’t surprise me; they have been pulling that sort of stunt before every election. If it hasn’t already happened, you can be sure that food parcels will soon be distributed everywhere, and when poor whites are the beneficiaries, big news will be made of it.
Now with the threat from the left, by Mr. Malema and friends, you can be sure the ANC will make plenty of populist noises. This e-tolling thing is of course pretty brazen, considering that the poor are precisely the people who suffer the most from it. But if the poor are going to keep on voting the ANC back into power, then perhaps the poor richly deserve their government.
Me, I might well withhold my vote this election, unless I get it into my head to support the Dagga Party. ![]()
Me, I might well withhold my vote this electionThat is like voting for the ANC. The pie is just smaller, but the percentage does not change, were as a vote against them will make a change. So please vote to any other party, but with a strong opposition, who knows? A divided opposition? Divide and rule.
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Well, the deputy prez sez we all support e-toll, so I guess it’s time to close this thread… 
http://mg.co.za/article/2014-04-08-motlanthe-never-mind-cosatu-millions-support-e-tolls
What’s interesting about this is that it’s the first time a high-ranking ANC/government official in a role unaffiliated with transport has pronounced on e-tolling. Perhaps it has finally sunk in that the Big Stick approach was a disaster, and Motlanthe weighing in is probably nothing more than another anxious instance of saying, “Look, everyone else is complying so you might as well, too.” The trouble for them is that on this issue, the SANRAL/DoT/ANC axis has squandered every last bit of its credibility. Nobody trusts what they say anymore, including perhaps even the Public Protector.
'Luthon64
Yup: nowadays it is easy to see when a government official is lying. Just check whether his lips are moving. As a rule of thumb, whatever they say, believe the opposite.
All six points are factual and correct but points 2 and 5 need some expansion and clarification. Concerning point 2, if a court of law finds you guilty of non-payment, only then will you have a criminal record, which is much like tax evasion and SARS: You must be tried and pronounced guilty first. Point 5 is somewhat more worrying. The Metro police don’t have the authority to set up roadblocks for the express purpose of catching e-toll defaulters. This does not mean that if an arrest warrant for e-toll evasion has been issued that they cannot detain you. Refusing to pay e-tolls is treated as a criminal matter (much like income tax), not a civil matter like refusing to pay a rates or electricity account would be. Point 4 is currently also correct but I expect that there will soon be amendments to extant law that will attach unpaid e-tolls to road licence renewal, just like they’ve done with traffic fines.
Oh, and the correct URL for disputing e-toll bills is http://www.cvsonline.co.za/etoll/home
'Luthon64
Something to help justifying you, giving them (SANRAL), the finger. [urlhttp://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2014-05-14-odious-debt-from-collusive-tendering-a-good-reason-not-to-pay-e-tolls/][/url]
“There have been repeated calls for a referendum on e-tolls versus a dedicated, Gauteng-specific fuel levy…"
I would much rather have e-tolls: one would after all have no choice but to pay the fuel levy! And how about “neither of the above” as an option on the referendum ballot?
The relevant government authorities have repeatedly claimed that a fuel levy is not an efficient collection mechanism because it cannot be properly ringfenced and is therefore out of the question. This claim is clearly specious because there is a fuel levy in place already and the government knows down to the last cent how much revenue it generates. No, the truth is a whole lot more grubby.
First, the fuel levy funds flow into the greater fiscus (thereby losing their identity), whence they are allocated for uses other than road maintenance and road infrastructure development, which is what they were originally meant to be used for. If the government were suddenly forced to use those funds for their originally intended purpose, it would then not be able to meet some of its other fiscal obligations, chiefly the payment of social grants. That could mean more social unrest and ultimately cost the ruling party votes — and that is a strict and absolute no-no. Therefore, the government keeps insisting that e-tolling is the only way to fund roads.
Second, the government has a bunch of contractual agreements in place with local and overseas companies, which agreements relate to toll collection in Gauteng. These contracts were no doubt entered into on the assumption that e-tolling would quickly fly with Gautengers, the wrongness of which assumption proved two things, namely the government’s sheer unbridled arrogance, and that middle class people were getting fed up with being nothing more than ATMs for the state’s use. If the government defaults on its contractual obligations it will be liable for substantial penalties, a situation it obviously wants to avoid, and so it keeps pumping e-tolling as the only solution.
Moreover, when improvements to Gauteng’s highway system began, the public was effectively lied to — by omission if not by commission. The project was promoted as necessary both for hosting the 2010 World Cup and for the benefit of Gauteng’s economic future. The tolling aspect was quite deliberately downplayed all along, up to the point of no return. SANRAL did the absolute legal minimum it had to in order to elicit public participation (IIRC, there were 32 submissions from the public after the project was gazetted — and who among us regularly and diligently reads the Government Gazette?).
In short, the government is reaping the rewards of its autocratic tendencies and its carefree and profligate spending splurges of a decade and more ago, and now it’s in a real bind, sorely aggravated by Gauteng’s widespread rejection of e-tolling. It is laughable of the ruling party to maintain that the e-tolling issue was not the reason for its huge loss of votes in Gauteng. It again reveals how they view the voting public. In all of this, it is clear that the government has painted itself into a corner over e-tolling and will push forward on the issue until it either starts working or becomes hopelessly unworkable by costing more than it brings in.
But even if e-tolling is eventually abandoned in favour of a fuel levy hike, I see no reason why it should only be Gauteng motorists who pay it. People love to forget that Gauteng funds all sorts of projects all over the country anyway, urban as well as rural. If they were serious about properly applying their vaunted “user pays” principle and kept the revenue generated by Gauteng exclusively for Gauteng’s use, the highway improvements would have already been paid for ten times over.
E-tolling is an insidious, evil subterfuge; a monument to the government’s excesses, ineptitudes and egotism.
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